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Jill Nicollini interviews Elizabeth Toller

Jill Nicolini


Jill Nicolini (00:08):

Broadcasting from the business capital of the world. This is the podcast business news network, And we are now joined by Elizabeth Toller, better known as Elizabeth Toller. So exciting to have you here. How’s everything?

Elizabeth Toller (00:22):

It’s great. I’m so excited to be here.

Jill Nicolini (00:24):

Well, thank you. It’s great to get to see you here. We are live on the podcast as well as live on zoom. Would you mind introducing yourself to our listeners today to start?

Elizabeth Toller (00:33):

Hi, my name is Elizabeth Toller. I’m better known as Elizabeth Toller and I’m an intuitive life coach. I use my abilities as a psychic medium and Tarot reader to help you find the answers you need to live a life you love.

Jill Nicolini (00:49):

Beautiful. And where are you based at is specifically

Elizabeth Toller (00:52):

I’m out of Southern California,

Jill Nicolini (00:54):

But you work with people all over the world, right?

Elizabeth Toller (00:57):

Yes, I do. I’ve had clients in Australia, Canada, and the middle east.

Jill Nicolini (01:04):

Wow. So you’re a psychic, you’re a medium there’s, you’re an intuitive, you’re an empath. There’s a lot to you. Would you mind just giving us a little bit of your background? I think it’s important for us to get to know you. Where’d you grow up? When did you realize you had this gift and tell us a little bit about yourself and then we’ll, we’ll talk, you know, more of other things that you could do and help us with?

Elizabeth Toller (01:25):

Well, I was born and raised in Southern California and I began my working career working at Disneyland. Yay. Most people love that about me.

Jill Nicolini (01:35):

Yeah, of course.

Elizabeth Toller (01:39):

I was a very young child when I realized had this ability. I remember being at a funeral when I was about four years old and wondering why there was the body in the casket and the body standing next to the casket. Wow. And that I was able to talk to him. So it’s been my whole life that I’ve had this ability. And in the last several years, I’ve really been working to bring it out and to really help people with it.

Jill Nicolini (02:05):

Wow. you, you say you help so many people, clearly a lot of us do live busy lives, right. And yes, there’s something usually holding us back. So you’re telling me, you can meet with someone here, zoom face to face, on a call and just feel it, figure it out. How does it work? I love, I love this.

Elizabeth Toller (02:22):

It all starts with asking the right question. And once we formulated the question to get the information you truly need, I can tap into the universe and get that from you. I use Tarot cards. I use pendulums and I can really pull out that information. It’s the information that’s trapped in your subconscious. And I like to refer to it as the information that you do don’t know that you don’t know.

Jill Nicolini (02:45):

Yep. Wow. Well, how do you ask the questions to get life changing answers? Ha ha.

Elizabeth Toller (02:52):

Well, I do have a guide on my website that can help you formulate the question.

Jill Nicolini (02:57):

Tell us, by the way, what is the website?

Elizabeth Toller (02:59):

It is And there’s a big link that says click here for your guide to ask for the nine tips to ask Tarot question for life changing results.

Jill Nicolini (03:11):

Beautiful. Wow. The nine tips to ensure a life changing tower reading as well. And you’re also offering a coupon if they sign up on the website as right.

Elizabeth Toller (03:19):

Yes. They’ll get $25 off the email reading. It’s usually $75. So $25 off will be $50 for an email reading. And they just fill out the form for the email reading with their question after they’ve read the guide. So we can really hone in on their correct questions to get them truly the information that they you need. And the question is really about being specific about what you need to know and asking an open ended question. Yes. And no questions don’t work really well for me. Yeah. It’s really about gathering the information that you need to know about the path that you’re on in life and then making a choice, whether you like that path or not. And if you don’t like that path, then gathering the information to get you on a path that’s more, more desirable for you.

Jill Nicolini (04:08):

Got it. Well, let me ask you this. A lot of people, questions they all wanna know about career changes, probably life relationships are those all things you can help people with.

Elizabeth Toller (04:17):

Absolutely. The most prominent questions are about relationships, mostly romantic relationships and about career, whether or not they’re on a good career path. They’re thinking about changing career paths, what would be a good path for them? And that those are the two main, main parts. And then also a lot of family, you know, people wanna know what’s to do about certain San.

Jill Nicolini (04:41):

And do you also, can you also tap into the other side to the loved ones we lost as well?

Elizabeth Toller (04:46):

Yes. Perfect. Yes. If somebody is wanting to connect with a loved one on the other side, I can do that as well. And they usually have messages to help them on their life path as well.

Jill Nicolini (04:58):

Now, how do you shut it off Anne? Betsy, it’s gotta be, I mean, you into a supermarket, are you like overwhelmed with people’s thoughts and energy and do you feel, or do you, you just know how to push it away?

Elizabeth Toller (05:09):

I’ve learned over the years how to push it away, but I’ll tell you kind of a funny story. My grandfather was the Iceman in Redondo beach, California during prohibition and a man named Tony Conero went to gambling ships off the coast of California and he became kind of a family friend. So when I was really starting to develop this and really did need to learn how to shut it off, I connected with Tony Conero and he has said a couple of his goons. So they’ve got the little velvet rope and they hold them off until I say they can come in. Oh,

Jill Nicolini (05:41):

Look at that. Perfect. Wow. That’s awesome. And Betsy, let’s talk, I know in your notes you wanna focus to start specifically on Tarot correct? Yes. To start, let’s start there. So for example, you know, what is Tarot, not everybody is aware. Would you mind walking us through the process?

Elizabeth Toller (05:59):

Tarot is a divination technique, and that is a technique just to tap into the information that the universe has for you and with the Tarot cards, it can really hone in onto that information that you need. Most people think that Tarot is fortune telling, and it’s not. It’s about information gathering and it’s going to give you the predictable outcome based on the information. And if you don’t like that outcome, we can change that. We can talk about ways that we can, you know, shift your perspective shift the path that you’re on in life.

Jill Nicolini (06:34):


Elizabeth Toller (06:35):

And, and gather new information.

Jill Nicolini (06:38):

So how many cards are in a Tarot deck? How does it work?

Elizabeth Toller (06:43):

In a Tarot deck? There are 78 cards and there are two types of cards in the Tarot deck. There are the Major Arcana cards and these are the life lessons. This is the stuff that you were put on the earth to learn.

Jill Nicolini (06:55):


Elizabeth Toller (06:56):

And then the major are the day to day. Okay. Kind of things, you know, the, the obstacles that you need to work on every day of your life and those cards also reveal patterns of your life so that if you’re not liking a pattern that keeps showing up in your life. Yeah. We can look at those minor iconic cards, see what that pattern is and work on ways to change.

Jill Nicolini (07:18):

That’s amazing. Did you pull like a, a card today for the show to know what you’re gonna talk about?

Elizabeth Toller (07:24):

I did not pull a card today, but most mornings I do just to see what, you know, what my day is gonna bring, what challenges I may come up again. Wow.

Jill Nicolini (07:33):

So you really get a new perspective of life, as you say. And yes. So the 22 may your Umana cards, you say those are the ones that represent lives. What would you call them? Karmic or spiritual lessons. Yeah. Okay. Got it.

Elizabeth Toller (07:47):

Karmic or spiritual lessons

Jill Nicolini (07:48):

And then the other 56, those are the minor, minor, the

Elizabeth Toller (07:52):


Jill Nicolini (07:52):

Perfect. Perfect. Make sure we’re getting everything. And then 16 represent 16 different personality characteristics. We may choose Ooh. To express at any given time. And that also includes 40 numbered cards. So organizing into four suits, you sent 10 cards. I’m trying to picture it because I haven’t seen a deck of Tarot cards in years and now you’re probably gonna pull them out in front of, I knew it I’m an intuitive, let me see.

Elizabeth Toller (08:17):

Yeah. They look just like playing cards. Okay. Tarot deck started out as actual playing cards and then people started putting meanings to what the different pictures meant. Got it. And looking at the symbolism of the cards.

Jill Nicolini (08:30):


Elizabeth Toller (08:31):

Okay. And that has developed into what we know is the Tarot today.

Jill Nicolini (08:34):

Okay. And now what about you use Tarot cards. What other forms of do you use pendulum? I think is that next to talk about?

Elizabeth Toller (08:41):

I use pendulums.

Jill Nicolini (08:42):

Okay. And that is, and what exactly is a pendulum? I’m thinking like it’s making you sleepy, is it, what is it a crystal on it? What, what what’s, what is it entail?

Elizabeth Toller (08:50):

It is, it’s basically what I use is a chain with a crystal on it.

Jill Nicolini (08:56):

I knew it

Elizabeth Toller (08:57):

That gives yes and no answers. So we tap into the pendulum, we ask permission for to be able to use it. And then we ask it questions and it says yes or no, or it may not be able to answer it. And it’ll just go in a circle and, you know, say that it either does doesn’t have enough information. We haven’t asked the right question. And that it can’t really answer it well. So then we just need to hone in, like I said, it always comes back to asking the correct questions.

Jill Nicolini (09:25):

Well, I’ve heard, I mean, I don’t know, you’re an intuitive empath, but do you use Reiki at all? Is that something you do? Or?

Elizabeth Toller (09:30):

I am not a Reiki practitioner.

Jill Nicolini (09:31):

Okay. But I’ve heard people who use Reiki and the energy moves with a, a certain way. If, if you’re, yes. If things are going the right way, if they’re not like, if it’s your stomach shocker or something, it’s going the opposite way and there’s something wrong. So it, it just picks up on the energy of the person, of the body, of the being.

Elizabeth Toller (09:46):

Yes. It picks up on the energy. I have some friends that are Reiki practitioners and use pendulums in, in their practice.

Jill Nicolini (09:53):

So really gives you that visual confirmation that yes, your gut is.

Elizabeth Toller (09:57):

And I find one of the reasons that I use divination techniques, I use the Terra cards and I use the pendulum is to give my clients that visual of what is happening.

Jill Nicolini (10:07):

Yeah. I mean, you feel, you sense that, you know it, but they’re like seeing is believing, let me see it. And it’s like, yes. Yeah,

Elizabeth Toller (10:14):

Lots of doubting Thomas is out there. So me being able to show them something physical about what I, what I know in my, my being yeah. Then it really helps them to grasp onto it. And most people, it takes, you know, all five senses for them to learn. Yep. So them being able to see it in a well as hear it and feel it

Jill Nicolini (10:35):

Well, I was gonna, what about those naysayers out there? I’m sure you turned a lot of non-believers into believers. Right. And I have, I’m sure you are. So you probably welcome them in and it’s like shocking to them, but could you talk about that? Someone saying, I don’t believe this works or I, how many times there people been shocked leaving their, your chair or the zoom call. And they’re like,

Speaker 3 (10:56):


Elizabeth Toller (10:56):

Are, I get them all the time and I meet them in my day to day life. Oh, that’s just a bunch of hog wash. And then I start telling them things that they, that nobody else could have known about them. One time I was sitting at a wedding and somehow I got sat next to the grandmother of the bride. And her husband had just died a few weeks before and she was really distraught about it. And I started giving her information of things that only she would know, and she was just blown away. Wow. And I was able to give her some relief from her grief.

Jill Nicolini (11:32):

Wow. That is amazing. Amazing. This is exciting work. Okay. So

Elizabeth Toller (11:38):

Then I had a whole wedding full of people who believed

Jill Nicolini (11:41):

Wow. And you do group readings as well.

Elizabeth Toller (11:45):

I do.

Jill Nicolini (11:46):

I do. Okay. That must be fun. And nowadays with the pandemic in COVID, did that actually help your business since you’re able to? Oh,

Elizabeth Toller (11:52):


Jill Nicolini (11:53):

Okay. Yeah.

Elizabeth Toller (11:54):

At the beginning of the pandemic, you know, life shut down and people had so many things that they had been able to avoid in the busyness of life that they’re now, you know, making their shower dough, bread and thinking.

Jill Nicolini (12:07):

Yep. It’s so true

Elizabeth Toller (12:08):

About, you know, what has life been? You know, I don’t know if you’ve seen, know the divorce rates and the abuse rates and all of that is just skyrocketed, cuz people didn’t know how to cope with without all of the busyness of life.

Jill Nicolini (12:22):

Got it now. So,

Elizabeth Toller (12:24):

So yes, my business has been skyrocketing.

Jill Nicolini (12:27):

Great. And let me ask you in regards to COVID and the pandemic and clients full world has been, I anxious, depressed, I mean, change, we’ve been in an uproar the past two years. Is that something that with your abilities, you kind of sensed, is there anything that you can give to our audience today? Are you noticing any calm or peace in the future or is this just the new norm of life now? And so it’s two part question it’s about that. And then about the people you’ve been helping, are they dealing with more anxiety and stress career, those types of things

Elizabeth Toller (12:55):

Yeah. With the pandemic itself it became an emotional component as well as a physical component. The disease is there it’s real. Yes. We know that, but for every person they have to decide when their pandemic is over and how they’re going to move on from, from now, you know, taking into consideration, this is a real disease and we still need to take those precautions, but mentally and emotionally, how are they gonna move forward and end their pandemic and, and be able to live a life they love within those physical constraints. Cuz I don’t know that this is going any in any place anytime soon.

Jill Nicolini (13:36):

Got it.

Elizabeth Toller (13:37):

Yeah. You know, everybody’s going to be cautious about their health. I think for many years to come and the masks I think are just gonna be part of our, our society now. Got

Jill Nicolini (13:50):

It. And those who are helping out, there’s a lot of people that have been in up board like career. I mean, I’m sure you had to guide them through that because they lost their job. They’ve lost. So there a lot, I mean, is that something you can help people with today as well? The anxiety, the stress of all the change.

Elizabeth Toller (14:05):

Yes. A lot of people lost their jobs and they’re like, what are we gonna do now that we don’t have that income? So we have record numbers of people starting businesses of their own. I belong to a couple of different women, entrepreneur groups and the numbers of those groups are just increasing by leaps and bounds because people need to figure out how to make a living without having to rely on somebody else.

Jill Nicolini (14:33):


Elizabeth Toller (14:34):

Interesting. And I have helped a women really get focused on what they want their business to be and get them started on that.

Jill Nicolini (14:42):

Interesting. Great. Thank you. What else do you do? You work with numbers, right? Is it yes. Numerology or, okay, cool. Thank you.

Elizabeth Toller (14:51):

Yeah. Numbers mean things and we see numbers, meaning things going all the way back to the, the Bible numerology was very prevalent in the Bible. There was a reason that he had 12 apostles and all of those numbers mean really great things. And on the terror, every card has a, so to be able to help give a deeper meaning to those cards. I also bring in the new neurology aspect of it. Mm. So yesterday I don’t know. There was a lot of people talking about the two day 2 22, 22.

Jill Nicolini (15:26):

Yes. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Elizabeth Toller (15:28):

Twos are all about relationships. No, not necessarily romantic relationships, any kind of partnership. So yesterday was a really significant day for partnerships. You know, whether you’re starting one ending, one wanting to improve one yesterday was the day to do it.

Jill Nicolini (15:44):

Yes. Wow. Powerful. You booked solid yesterday.

Elizabeth Toller (15:49):

I was,

Jill Nicolini (15:51):

I heard a lot. Lot of people were getting married too on that day. It’s like a,

Elizabeth Toller (15:54):

Yes, it’s a very lucky day to get married. Wow. And in the Chinese culture, toos are very important because it’s all about family and relationships.

Jill Nicolini (16:03):

Wow. Interesting, good to know. All right. And so numerology and begin numbers. And when someone comes to you, what are there certain things that you need from them ahead of? Do you, you know, do you either birthday birth location or no, you just it’s like here,

Elizabeth Toller (16:17):

It’s all about the question. Wow. And then we go from their question and that’s why I put together the guide on my website about the nine tips and how to ask a powerful question. Could

Jill Nicolini (16:28):

You give us a tip or two here today?

Elizabeth Toller (16:31):

Yes. you really need to be focused on what you want answers to. If you’re not ready to receive the information, then the reading, you really shouldn’t be doing a reading. Good to know. You really need to be ready to receive that. Always ask in the positive, don’t ask about what should I not be doing, but what do I need to do? What do I need to know to move forward from this situation? And it’s really about themselves. You can’t ask about what other people are doing around you. What do I need to know about this situation? Got it. What is the information I need to do? Cuz we can’t change other people’s but we can change how we deal with other people.

Jill Nicolini (17:13):

Mm. Very good. Thank you. All right. What else did you wanna talk about Elizabeth Toller? I love this.

Elizabeth Toller (17:23):

Would you let me do a Tara reading for you?

Jill Nicolini (17:26):

I would love to. I was gonna ask that next. You probably felt it. I was like, can you put one of those cards for me? I, what do I need to do? Just relax. I’m willing. If we need

Elizabeth Toller (17:33):

To first, we need to talk about what do you wanna know about career love?

Jill Nicolini (17:40):

Both. It’s not fair. I get to choose one. Whether

Elizabeth Toller (17:43):

Or not you’re ever gonna win an Emmy.

Jill Nicolini (17:45):

How about no, I it’s career or love? Which one? Whichever one you think comes first.

Elizabeth Toller (17:56):

Let’s let’s do love. Okay. What do you need to know about your love life?

Jill Nicolini (17:59):

Huh? Okay. Well, first of all, I’ll tell you, I I’ve never been married. I have two kids, five and seven. I never get that part of my life straight. And I look back to childhood knowing that I don’t trust men because of my parents’ relationship it, but I feel like I’m also stuck when it comes to love. But am I making excuses? Is there? I, I, I want everyone wants to love right? Be in love, have a relationship. I wanna be married. It’s a dream I have, but it just never happens. So why what do I need to fix? Is there love in my future? I I’m dating someone now for a few months, but again, I’m also very guarded standoffish with anyone because it’s hard for me to trust. So when do you see love, like a relationship love blooming into something more? Is there someone for me or am I meant to be this way? Which is okay, but

Elizabeth Toller (18:44):

Yeah. Well what do you need to know about your love life? So we have got, I’m gonna pull three cards from you. Okay. Goodness. You’ve got some good ones. We’re gonna start with the page of coins. The page of coins is your immediate past. What has been going for you? The page is always, he’s a messenger and he always brings you good news and coins are literally money in your case. So he is bringing you good news about your career.

Jill Nicolini (19:15):

Okay. Oh, works.

Elizabeth Toller (19:18):

That in your immediate past and up until today, it’s really been focused on your career and how to make that money and everything has been going so well for you. You are so successful in your career,

Jill Nicolini (19:31):

Kind of. Okay. Okay.

Elizabeth Toller (19:34):

I know you haven’t won that Emmy.

Jill Nicolini (19:35):

No, no, no. Yeah. I’m a Susan Luci, but that’s okay. Okay.

Elizabeth Toller (19:41):

But career has really been good and he’s bringing you good news about that. Your career is gonna continue to move forward and you’re on a really great career path.

Jill Nicolini (19:50):

Okay, good. I worry about that as the main, so, okay.

Elizabeth Toller (19:54):

Yes. So career has been your focus for most of your life having to provide for two children,

Jill Nicolini (20:00):

Which I also feel that why my other side of my life’s not as good. I focus so hard on something and now I don’t have everything, but everyone has their path. Okay, go ahead.

Elizabeth Toller (20:08):

Yes. So then we come to where you’re at today and you’re on the wheel of fortune and the, and it is literally the wheel of fortune, like the TV show.

Jill Nicolini (20:18):

Oh my gosh. Where

Elizabeth Toller (20:19):

Are you gonna

Jill Nicolini (20:19):


Elizabeth Toller (20:20):

Well, you are not stopping on a bankrupt.

Jill Nicolini (20:23):

Okay, good.

Elizabeth Toller (20:24):

And this is telling you that it it’s really in your hands. If you truly want that relationship, then it is in your hands and you need to make the choices to move towards that. And you can have the love of your life if you truly want it.

Jill Nicolini (20:43):

Got it. So

Elizabeth Toller (20:44):

This is, even though you say you

Jill Nicolini (20:46):

Want it, do I Tru

Elizabeth Toller (20:47):

Want it in your soul?

Jill Nicolini (20:50):

Ah, wow. That’s good. Yes. Wow.

Elizabeth Toller (20:53):

Cause our minds can say it and we can speak the words, but if you don’t truly want it in your soul, then it’s not gonna happen. So this is your choice to truly make it in your, your soul.

Jill Nicolini (21:08):

Wow. All right. I,  wow. I, I do want it, but I always find, yeah, I say the word, but I find that I’m always, so I’m scared. Because to me it’s been like career. And if I give up some of that to have that, what if it doesn’t work out? And I, I get so scared. So, but no, I do want the love. It’d be nice to have love and a teammate you could strive and, and live together and be teamwork makes the dream work, miss Elizabeth Toller. But that’d be nice. Okay. Thank you for this advice. Go ahead.

Elizabeth Toller (21:38):

Yeah. And we talked about major cards. The real fortune is a major card. Oh. So this is one of your life lessons in really making hard choices in your life. You know what, and this isn’t going to be the only hard choice that you have been tasked with in this lifetime, But making those choices and really making those choices come true is one of your paths of this life. One of the, of things that you came into this life to do

Jill Nicolini (22:13):

Is to like work career wise, you mean, or

Elizabeth Toller (22:15):

No, no. To make those hard choices, to

Jill Nicolini (22:17):

Make the hard choices,

Elizabeth Toller (22:19):

To make the hard choices, to really learn how to make those hard choices and really make them in your soul and make them come true.

Jill Nicolini (22:27):

Got it. Wow. Is that true? Like everyone here on this earth, on this plane is sent here with like a not not a contract, like a piece of paper in a sense, like saying this is what you have to try to overcome this lifetime. I’m not saying it right. Yes.

Elizabeth Toller (22:43):

Okay. But yes, you’re getting the concept. I believe, and most people believe that we come here with, you know, the things that we need to learn. Yes. Things that we need to overcome, whether or not you believe in Carnation, you know, we pick our parents because of things that we need to learn from them and things that we need to learn in our life because of, of either past lives or just things that our soul desires to learn in this world.

Jill Nicolini (23:10):


Elizabeth Toller (23:11):


Jill Nicolini (23:11):

Thank you.

Elizabeth Toller (23:13):

So we come to our third card which is the world, which is another Majorana card. Okay. And it is also the end of the major. The Majorana tells a story. We start with the zero card, which is the fool who is the beginning of the journey. And the last card is the world. So what is coming for you in the future? If you make those hard choices about a relationship and what you want from the relationship, you get the world, you get that love of your life.

Jill Nicolini (23:50):

Wow. I thought, I mean, I thought it maybe also meant that I’m gonna travel the world. I just have like this passion in me and I don’t know why it’s burning so much. The past, my mom passed away almost five years ago now she was only 62. And I, I with her a lot in the end and now I have my five and seven year old and I’m trying to travel and I wanna conquer the world. I want, I wanna see everything. So I thought that’s maybe what it meant, so. Okay. But that’s okay. I can have the world in a sense. In my hand, you

Elizabeth Toller (24:15):

Can, if that’s, if that’s your souls desire, then you get physically to travel the world. Wow. So once again, we go back to that wheel of fortune. What are your choice? What are you going to write on your heart to really live your life, to do, if it is to travel the world with your children, or if it’s to have that love of your life, who you travel with with your children?

Jill Nicolini (24:41):

Yes, I get it. I would like, it’s

Elizabeth Toller (24:43):

All. Yeah. It’s all up to, to you and you really need to overcome that fear and we all have that fear. I’m in your same boat. I have never been married either. Okay. And I don’t have children. I have my cat. You’ve probably heard, heard her in the

Jill Nicolini (24:56):

Background. I have a cat too. And I had the first one all by myself. So my first child, cuz I didn’t have anyone. So I did it alone. The second one I have with a friend, but it was like, yeah, everyone has their cards. What it’s meant to be. And I have my cat cuddles as well. I love cats. But it’s great to know that we can, should I, should I be, should we write this down? Do you believe in vision boards or you know, how can you tell your clients here like myself for example, should I write down my, wants my desires and should I be looking at them? Or what do you suggest to, to people?

Elizabeth Toller (25:26):

I I’m the list queen

Jill Nicolini (25:27):

Me too. And then the list gets coagulated. I used to put it on a paper and just cross it off. Then I started the phone thing and I don’t, the phone is horrible because I can’t even like, no. What do you suggest?

Elizabeth Toller (25:39):

I’m a big believer in lists. Yeah. Write down exactly what you want. Keep it short three to five things. Okay. That you truly truly want. And I’m not a vision board person, but I have a lot of friends who are, they take their lists and they make vision boards out of them

Jill Nicolini (25:56):

List is good enough. Right? Good.

Elizabeth Toller (25:58):


Jill Nicolini (25:59):

I don’t have space for vision boards.

Elizabeth Toller (26:02):

So write that list and keep it with you always. And when you find yourself getting distracted, go back to that list. Is this on my list? Is this getting me to that thing on my list is this action getting me to that love of my life is this action. Getting me to travel. The world, got it with my children. Is this thing, getting me where I want to be in my career. It’s really focusing your intentions of life

Jill Nicolini (26:30):


Elizabeth Toller (26:31):

So, and with every action in your life, moving towards those things you truly want,

Jill Nicolini (26:37):

I have to say this, I am not a singer, but now I’m thinking of that song from the eighties because your kids, your kids is on my list and I’m gonna be like, my goals are on my list. I’m gonna listen to that song later. But yes, the list, the list. Write it down. Thank you so much jam Betsy. Wow. Thank you for enlightening us today here. We still have a, a minute left in the show. So what else did you wanna share with everyone today before we get your contact information again too?

Elizabeth Toller (27:05):

I do both email readings and either Skype or in-person readings. Oh cool. And that’s all automated on my website so they can go to my website. They can sign up for an email reading or for an in-person reading and sign up for all of that with their schedule. Email readings are truly in amazing because you know, you’re awake at three in the morning. Yeah. With this thought question on your mind, you can go to my website and email me and you will get your answer.

Jill Nicolini (27:34):

Wow. That is awesome. I like how that works. I’ve never met anyone who does that. That’s perfect. And are you on social media at all?

Elizabeth Toller (27:41):

I am on social media. I am every, I’ve got Facebook and Pinterest Google business. I’ve just in the last couple of days, signed up for TikTok. So there’s nothing there yet, but there will be really

Jill Nicolini (27:54):

Soon. Awesome.

Elizabeth Toller (27:55):

And I’m just getting my Pinterest boards going up where I’m going to have tips with how people can really tap into their own intuition and you know, the path to a life they love.

Jill Nicolini (28:05):

Well, thank you again for being here. We really appreciate it, Elizabeth Toller. You’re looking forward to speaking with you again and thank you for my reading. Gave me a lot to think about today. Yeah.

Elizabeth Toller (28:13):

You’re welcome. Have a good, yeah, they can find me at AF can or just Google AF camp Betsy and they will find me.

Jill Nicolini (28:21):

Beautiful. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (00:05):

Broadcasting from the business capital of the world. This is the podcast business news Network.

Steve Harper (00:13):

I’m going to start that over again because she’s here. Our aunt is here and she’s not my aunt. She’s our aunt because she is who’s incredibly intuitive. She’s an intuitive life coach. She has psychic abilities, mediumship ability. She can do tarot card readings. She can really help plot your life path and it’s great to have you with us. How are you Aunt Betsy?

Aunt Betsy (00:36):

I’m doing great. So good to be here.

Steve Harper (00:39):

Great to have you with us. And I’ve talked to life coaches before, but you’re very different having the intuitive side. So can we dig into that right now? How does that work for you? Is it when you meet with somebody and you going to work with them as a life coach, do you have kind of a feeling for what they’re after just because you’ve kind of tapped into their energy?

Aunt Betsy (01:04):

Yes, I do. I do. I usually see their auras and their energy as we’re doing the pleasantries and I get a feel for who they are and what they’re looking for in life, and then we move forward from there. It’s being an intuitive life coach gives me that advantage that we can start at a deeper level than most coaches or even most therapists.

Steve Harper (01:30):

Yep. I totally understand it because if you, nothing wrong with therapists, but sometimes it takes time to get to a certain point. You might have to go for three sessions before you’re really at the point where you’re at the therapy or the coaching level.

Aunt Betsy (01:44):

Right, exactly. So with me, we can start at a little bit deeper level and get to the heart of what you want to know.

Steve Harper (01:53):

So I want to know, and I’m sure a lot of people ask this question, if you are a medium or a psychic, does that mean that you can connect with the other side as well?

Aunt Betsy (02:04):

It does, and a lot of times during readings, the person I’m reading for their relatives, friends who have passed will come through in the reading and we’ll help with messages for them.

Steve Harper (02:17):

Wow, fantastic. I firmly believe, and I’m learning this more and more in my journey, that our future, our present is kind of dictated by our past, our childhood, whatever it might be, and you have to pull that out before you can move forward in your journey. And I would imagine as a intuitive life coach, you’re going to pull that out pretty fast.

Aunt Betsy (02:40):

Yes, I do. So we don’t, like most therapists, they have to go through all the stages of the childhood with me. I get a sense of what that childhood was and we can just move forward.

Steve Harper (02:52):

Wow. Before we move forward in our talk here, I got to find out, how did this all begin for you? When did you realize that you had some intuition and wanted to be a life coach?

Aunt Betsy (03:05):

I was at a funeral when I was about four years old, and I saw the body in the casket and standing next to the casket and I was a little confused and my grandmother explained it to me.

Steve Harper (03:19):

Wow. I can imagine. The good thing is, the good thing is you were four because if you were 40 and that happened, I don’t know if anybody could have handled that at that moment.

Aunt Betsy (03:33):

No, no. So it just kind of all made sense to me at that moment of what I was, so it’s just an ability I’ve always had.

Steve Harper (03:42):

Amazing. Tell me some of the things that you’ve pulled from somebody in doing your life coaching, like an interesting situation or even a success story. Anything stand out in your mind? Recently?

Aunt Betsy (03:58):

Most of my clients in the last few years have been people wanting to start businesses because they got through the pandemic, either got laid off from jobs, got their jobs cut part time, wanted to start a side hustle in case they did get laid off or their company went out of business. So I’ve had a lot of successes helping people define what their business is because they come to me and say, I want to, I’ve got this product and I want to sell this product, and what do I need to do? And we work through what that product really is and what it means to them and why they want to sell it. And we get to a different place where it’s not so much about the product itself, but about what they’re building as a business.

Steve Harper (04:51):

And I’m sure a lot of them comes out in terms of their relationships, how that steers the business, their emotions and everything.

Aunt Betsy (05:00):

And we deal a lot with their fears of starting a business. A lot of people are very comfortable showing up to work and being handed a paycheck, and then when they have their own business, it’s a whole different way of life and we really work on that way of life as well.

Steve Harper (05:22):

Yes, it is. And I own a business and I was just doing invoices before because I’m in between bookkeepers. I got it. If you’re not familiar with it in terms of starting your own business, it’s a great thing. It’s a great thing. There’s other things involved there that you might not be aware of, so you might want to talk to and Betsy over here and just be armed. Be armed with what you need to know.

Aunt Betsy (05:48):

Yes. And I do have some clients who are really, they want to start a business, but they’re afraid of the sales aspect of it and talking to people to actually sell their product. So we do a lot of work on why they have that fear and where that fear came from.

Steve Harper (06:03):

I want to talk about intuition for a second because a lot of psychics or people with some type of ability like that say that we’re all psychic. We all can do it, we just need to be able to tune into it. Do you feel that way?

Aunt Betsy (06:19):

I absolutely do. For quite a while of my life, I did block it out. I just ignored it. I just kind of shut it down and it did take me a while to get it back. I also have, one of my best friends was very intuitive as a child and she shut it down and I’ve been working with her to open up her psychic abilities as well, and it’s really coming along very nicely. She’s become very intuitive.

Steve Harper (06:49):

Wow. So is it something, a skill that you work on as well?

Aunt Betsy (06:54):

Absolutely. Absolutely. A lot of meditation is involved to really tap into those long forgotten parts of our brain, the subconscious, and that’s really where the intuition comes from is back in the subconscious.

Steve Harper (07:14):

So it’s almost a, maybe you need to get into a meditative type state to really tap into that.

Aunt Betsy (07:20):

Yes, yes. When I was first trying to get my abilities back, I would spend a lot of time meditating and really just letting my mind wander back into the deepest corners and reaches inside my brain to really pull that information out.

Steve Harper (07:39):

I think I speak for a lot of people when it comes to meditation. I’m going to be blunt. I suck. It’s, it’s hard to get there. I could even tell you three years ago where I was, where I felt like, oh, and I was using an app. I was like, ah, I’m there. It’s so hard to get into that zone. What’s secret? What’s the secret?

Aunt Betsy (08:07):

I don’t know that there’s any one secret for anyone. When I meditate, I actually set a timer that I’m going to meditate for 30 minutes, and then that gives me the ability to set all of those daily worries aside and I can just sit and meditate and really let the information come to my conscious mind.

Steve Harper (08:30):

Somebody told me this, and I don’t know if you or somebody else does this, but they visualize themselves in an elevator and they went to the bottom floor, elevator opens, and they walk in onto a beach and that’s their meditative, that’s their location. They press the button, they know that’s how they mentally got there and they’re on the beach and that’s how they see things and feel things. And then when they’re done, they get back in the elevator and go back up.

Aunt Betsy (08:55):

Yeah, that’s a great idea. I have not done that, but I’m going to have to try that the next time I sit down to meditate.

Steve Harper (09:02):

I really actually want to be on the beach, but I don’t know how many elevators lead out to the sand.

Aunt Betsy (09:08):

My house is right on the little manmade lake, so I go outside and just look at the lake and let my mind wander and get into that meditative state.

Steve Harper (09:18):

Love it. So you also do tarot card readings, right?

Aunt Betsy (09:22):

Yes, I do.

Steve Harper (09:25):

Some people tell me that they do tarot card readings, they do Oracle cards. You do both or just tarot?

Aunt Betsy (09:32):

I’m just a tarot reader. Our oracles are a little different and I have not taken the time to learn those because tarot is definitely a learned skill.

Steve Harper (09:41):

And you know what? That is the baseline. That’s everything. Tarot. The Oracle cards, from what I understand are a more positive version of tarot cards. So tarot cards really tell it like it is and it runs a lot deeper. So to have that skill, you’re good to go.

Aunt Betsy (10:00):

Yeah. I like tarot for that Reason is it does go deeper. It does get into the story of your life and not the story we tell ourselves, but the story that we’re meant to live in this life.

Steve Harper (10:13):

When you do a tarot chord reading a typical one, how many cards do you pull?

Aunt Betsy (10:19):

When I do readings for my clients, I pull 10 cards and I do what’s called a Celtic cross reading, and that goes back to my Celtic roots. I identify most with the Irish part of me.

Steve Harper (10:30):

Same here.

Aunt Betsy (10:34):

So I do this Celtic Cross and it goes through where you’re sitting right now in your life and what the challenges are and then what you want as well as what the universe wants for you.

Steve Harper (10:49):

I love the way you put that, Betsy, because I am learning more and more about the universe and how, and it is what it is and how you need to put things out into the universe that you want. You’re probably not going to get ’em unless you do. And don’t be afraid to ask for those things might not get them.

Aunt Betsy (11:09):

Absolutely. Absolutely. It goes back to the Old Testament in the Bible. Seek and you shall find. Yeah.

Steve Harper (11:16):

Yeah. And it’s a phrase that has come to my mind in the last year or two. It will all be revealed. It will all be revealed, whatever it is. Take time, whatever. Yes. Yeah, give everybody your website. If they want to reach out to you, connect with you, do a reading,

Aunt Betsy (11:31):

It’s ask aunt

Steve Harper (11:35):

And bravo to you for locking down that domain name, by the way.

Aunt Betsy (11:39):

Yes. I have been known most of my life as Aunt Betsy, so when I wanted to start this business, it just made sense.

Steve Harper (11:49):

So along with tarot card readings and being an intuitive life coach, any other services that you offer people?

Aunt Betsy (11:58):

Not at this time. The intuitive life coaching is where I am focusing my energy.

Steve Harper (12:05):

Got it. Yeah. I didn’t know if maybe you did reiki. Sometimes people with your skills may do something else as well.

Aunt Betsy (12:12):

No, I have several friends who are reiki masters and I would rather refer people to them because they are amazing at it than have quite the talent for it.

Steve Harper (12:21):

Gotcha. So I never ask, but I’m kind of curious. Any possibility that you may be able to throw or pull a couple of cards on me,

Aunt Betsy (12:29):

I can will do a three card reading for you

Steve Harper (12:33):


Aunt Betsy (12:33):

That will lead us into the most important part of having a session with me is the question you want answered. And I have a guide on my website that is nine tips to Ensure Life changing tarot reading,

Steve Harper (12:49):

And I’m looking at now, by the way,

Aunt Betsy (12:54):

And that is if you go to my website, ask aunt There’s a big link that we’ll send you to that guide.

Steve Harper (13:04):

And it’s super easy to read, by the way. Very well laid out. It’s not super technical. Thank you. Yeah,

Aunt Betsy (13:11):

No, I wanted it super easy. Let’s just give you the information that you need so that we can move forward and get you on a path to a life that you love

Steve Harper (13:22):

And I love that. So tell me what you’re doing. Do you shuffle the cards first? How’s that go?

Aunt Betsy (13:25):

I do. First we need to talk about your question. What do you want to know about career, love, finances, family issues?

Steve Harper (13:38):

Fact, Betsy, I feel like I just rubbed the bottle and the genie came out three and I have to make them count and can I make them, do they have to be connected to each other or can they be completely independent questions?

Aunt Betsy (13:52):

They are a past, present, and future for the three cards. So we ask them a specific question and we see what that question has been doing for you in the recent past where it sits with you right now, and where the universe has you headed if you stay on this path.

Steve Harper (14:15):

I feel challenged for the first time in a long time.

Aunt Betsy (14:19):

I’m glad I was able to challenge

Steve Harper (14:20):

You. Yeah. So when we talk about the past question, give me an example of what that would be.

Aunt Betsy (14:28):

Well, it’s just one question that you ask, and I pulled the three cards around the one question. The most typical question is what do I need to know about my romantic life? What do I need to know about my business? What do I need to know about a family situation?

Steve Harper (14:50):

I only have three. I got to make them count. So they are going to center around the same thing. Is that that’s what we’re talking about?

Aunt Betsy (14:57):

Well, it’s just really one question. We’re asking one question and then there’s three cards that answer that one question.

Steve Harper (15:05):

Okay. So I’m living in the present. This is a present situation that I could ask lots of questions. I have lots of ’em. This one, and tell me, and if this question isn’t good, we will come up with others.

Aunt Betsy (15:21):


Steve Harper (15:22):

Should I buy a house I’m considering? And as an interesting situation surrounding that, which we don’t need to get into. Should I?

Aunt Betsy (15:35):

How about instead of saying should because there are no shoulds, how about what do you need to know about the house you’re buying and the decision you need to make?

Steve Harper (15:47):

That’s perfect.

Aunt Betsy (15:48):

Okay. So I am shuffling up the cards now with your intention of what you need to know about this house and the decision to buy it.

Steve Harper (16:04):

This is so cool and it’s not an easy question for me to answer because of situations surrounding it.

Aunt Betsy (16:19):

Yes. So you got a card that I don’t get very often, so I just want to double check something. Okay.

Steve Harper (16:28):

Of course

Aunt Betsy (16:29):

I did. Okay. Yes. So there are two types of cards in the tarot. There are the minor arcana, which are all that day-to-day stuff that you deal with. And then there’s the major arcana and those are your life lessons, the things that you came to this earth to learn. So your first question or your first card is your immediate past. And we’ve got strength, which is a major arcana card, and the strength card is all about compassion and can you see the card? Yeah. It’s all about compassion.

Steve Harper (17:08):


Aunt Betsy (17:11):

And within this decision, this card is telling me that you are maybe a little too compassionate about the situation and the people who are selling the house and all the situations around them selling the house that you have a little too much vested interest in what’s going on with them instead of the transaction.

Steve Harper (17:34):

Fair enough.

Aunt Betsy (17:37):

So with strength, it’s really good to have strength, but you need to balance the compassion that you have. And I’m so sorry, my cat has decided she wants to sit on the cards.

Steve Harper (17:50):

I hope she doesn’t leave anything on my strength card just saying

Aunt Betsy (17:53):

No. No. So strength is a really good place to come from, but you got to balance the compassion because you are in, since you’re in the media world, you always want to know all of the details. So a lot of the details aren’t necessarily things that you need to know to make this decision. Okay?

Steve Harper (18:17):


Aunt Betsy (18:19):

So your second card where you’re sitting at right now is the hangman. And I love this card. It’s all about letting go

Steve Harper (18:32):

And that ends our broadcast. Kidding, tell me more. It’s not a bad thing, is it? The

Aunt Betsy (18:37):

Hangman is all about letting go and finding a new perspective. So around this house purchase, you need to look at it a little bit different way than you’re currently looking at it. I also used to be a professional photographer and I took a photography class in Paris one time and we were walking down this one alleyway photographing stuff, and isn’t this all really cool? And we got to the other end and the instructor said, okay, let’s turn around and walk the other way. And it was a whole different experience. So you need to think about that with this home purchase, look at it from the other side and find a different perspective of it that may make more sense than the perspective you have now.

Aunt Betsy (19:31):

Because then your third card, which is the future, is the Ace of Cups. I also do numerology. Ace is the number one and number one is the beginning. So you’re going to be at a beginning of a whole new journey very soon. And cups are emotions. And in your case, it’s very happy emotions. It feels like there’s definitely a new home in your future and it feels like it is this home, but you need to look at it from a little bit different perspective. Make the offers from a little bit different perspective than you are now. You can have this home and you’ll be very happy in it.

Steve Harper (20:15):

Interesting. I’m not going to give up any details. I don’t need to, but I’m going to say everything you’re saying is at this juncture, and I’ll know more in a few days from what I do know. I’m going to say you’re like 90% on Target and the other 10% I won’t know. I’ll let you know. Yeah.

Aunt Betsy (20:40):

And this is the reading for right now. Tomorrow or the next day, different things happen. The sellers could change what’s going on. A realtor could do something that they’re not supposed to, so things can change, but at this moment it looks like this home is a really good purchase for you and you’re going to be very happy there.

Steve Harper (21:03):

Interesting. And to your point, there’s a lot of emotion involved. Should look at it from a different perspective. You’re totally totally on Target and you wouldn’t normally say that for buying a house, but in what we’re talking about here, 90%, you’re right on target with it. You really, really are. So let me ask you, we said past, present, future, the present. Am I right? That was the Hangman card.

Aunt Betsy (21:39):

That is the Hangman card.

Steve Harper (21:42):

And just overall, that’s not a bad thing.

Aunt Betsy (21:46):

No, the Hangman is a really good card. I like that card. Wow. Some tarot readers, but I do. I think it’s a really good card.

Steve Harper (21:55):

So scale of one to 10, 10 being the cards that you pulled for me being very strong, positive overall, where would you put that?

Aunt Betsy (22:06):

I think they’re very strong cards because you have two major arcana cards, so you have two life lessons within this decision that you’re making. How to balance your strength and compassion and your need to know every detail and your ability to let go and let the universe guide you through this process.

Steve Harper (22:30):

Let me make that 95% accurate. I processed it again what you’re saying and yeah, what you’re saying is definitely resonating. That’s it. 5%. I’ll let you know in a couple of days. And I’m not just saying that because you’re with us today. I’m fully transparent, always honest. That is what you’re saying. Is it? That’s it.

Aunt Betsy (22:54):

Good. I’m so glad.

Steve Harper (22:56):

It’s pretty crazy that you can pull that out from just a deck of cards. Of course. With your experience, intuition and reading it. Yes. Has there ever been a time where you’ve pulled cards and there’s no connection to the situation?

Aunt Betsy (23:12):

There is. There has been times and because the person that I was reading for wasn’t really intent on the question they asked, they had a lot of other things on their mind, other things that were going on. So the cards came out based on what they truly needed to know. And I have a lot of people come into my coaching sessions with what they think they already know about the situation, and then I am able to tap into their subconscious into that information that they don’t know that they don’t know. And it comes out as a whole different reading than they expected, but it was all information that they needed to hear.

Steve Harper (24:00):

When you think about it not to minimize life coaches, they’re all fantastic and have different specialties. Yes. What you’re doing is just moves it so much further and faster into where you want to be and what you want to find out about yourself, your life, your future, and all of that. Wow.

Aunt Betsy (24:20):

Absolutely. I just start at a different level and we get to a different level than non-intuitive do.

Steve Harper (24:29):

Yeah. And it’s not like this is all crazy psychic readings. No. You’re just tapping into energy and information and a path. Tell me about the process where I can’t believe we have a couple of minutes here, how it works. When somebody reaches out to you, they go to your website and where do they go from there?

Aunt Betsy (24:49):

They go to my website and I have two ratings that I do now. We can do it by email. Some people don’t want to talk to me, they just want to, at three in the morning, they want to toss a question out to me and see what comes back. That way they can go back to sleep and not worry about it until I get them an answer. Or we can do a video conference or in person if you are close enough to me. And I’ve also done them over the telephone, but I prefer seeing the person gives me a little bit better sense of their energy and I can read their body language a little bit better to see how they’re receiving the information.

Steve Harper (25:28):

How long does a take reading take?

Aunt Betsy (25:32):

Typical reading is about an hour and I start with the Celtic cross reading and we go through all of that. And then if they have follow up questions to get a little bit deeper, get a little bit more information, get some more clarity, then I do some three card readings to get them that additional information.

Steve Harper (25:51):

So you would do a series of three card readings that could be part of it?

Aunt Betsy (25:56):

That could be part of it, yes. Okay. I want to make sure that when we’re done, they have all the information that they desire to move forward in their life.

Steve Harper (26:08):

This is fantastic. It really is. And when somebody, even if you looked at astrology, sometimes it’s hard to interpret. Somebody will explain it to you, but I don’t know anything about the seventh son. Saturn returned as much as North Node, as much as I really want to just read me my chart, tell me what it says, specifically what it says, what the future’s going to be like, and be clear. You’re very clear in terms of what you do.

Aunt Betsy (26:38):

I do. I like to give my clients those straightforward answers so that they can move forward because my sugar coating it or my not giving them all the information doesn’t do them a service. And I really want my clients to have a life they love.

Steve Harper (26:54):

Has there been a time and Pepsi when there’s been some information where you’re like, I don’t know if I should give that up, or I don’t know if they really want to know that, or you’re just Here it is. Here it is.

Aunt Betsy (27:07):

I have had times where I’ve been a little leery about giving some information and then I did. And the people were very happy that they got the information because deep down that’s what they were really looking for.

Steve Harper (27:22):

Yeah. Let’s say there was a situation where somebody’s other half wasn’t being faithful, so to speak, that came up in the cards. Would you say something?

Aunt Betsy (27:35):

I have said something. One of the most interesting readings that I did was for a friend of mine and his wife and they were both sitting there and as I was reading for her, a second husband kept coming up that she was going to have a second family, a second, everything. And I didn’t know how to approach that since he was sitting there. So I finally just told him, I’m like, this is what I’m seeing, that there’s an ending to your marriage and that she finds somebody else and has another happy marriage. And it turns out, after I shared that information with them, that that’s what they were really looking for because they were trying to decide if they should continue to work it out or if they should get divorced.

Steve Harper (28:26):

Wow. Drop the mic, if you will. Wow. Interesting. And when you were saying second, I didn’t know if you were referring to maybe that she was with somebody who is married, right. And that family? No. Yeah, it was a

Aunt Betsy (28:46):

Wow. No, the reading was that they were getting divorced and she was going to have a second husband

Steve Harper (28:51):

And Betsy. Wow. God bless you. Stuff like

Aunt Betsy (28:56):

That. So yeah, even though I didn’t want to give up that information because they were friends of mine, I decided that it wouldn’t serve them with me not, and it really helped them that it was time for them to get divorced and learn how to co-parent and move on with their lives.

Steve Harper (29:12):

Wow. Fascinating. And I truly mean it. Fascinating talking with you today. I am looking forward to the next time we get together and if you have any questions, if you need to move your life forward and with somebody who can really plug into you and your energy or even card things, you have questions and Betsy is available, ask aunt is her website. And again, I feel like you’re our ants. You’re there for us, your aunt.

Aunt Betsy (29:43):

I’m definitely everybody’s Aunt Etsy.

Steve Harper (29:46):

Yeah. It’s been great talking with you and look forward to getting together sometime soon.

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I think we can all agree the last few years have not been what we planned.  It has has been full of chaos for me from the world’s pandemic to a new home to a new car before I am ready for it.  The chaos just keeps coming. Who would think to look for inspiration within the chaos? Me.

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Power of the Personal Project
Elizabeth Toller

What Is A Personal Project & Why Do I Care?

What is a Personal Project?

A personal project is about setting up a stimulation of your life through a project to find your roadblocks or stumbling blocks in life and working a plan to find your way around them, over them, or under them.

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