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KC Armstrong Interviews Elizabeth Toller

Speaker 1 (00:06):

Broadcasting from the business capital of the world. This is the podcast Business News Network.

KC Armstrong (00:13):

Alright guys, welcome back, and I am joined by the owner of Ask an Betsy and Betsy, aunt Betsy. How are you today?

Aunt Betsy (00:24):

I’m doing great and you?

KC Armstrong (00:25):

I’m terrific. I’m so excited to pick your brain a little bit because for the people who don’t know, it’s the first time I’m having you. Can you tell people a little bit about you and what you do? Because there’s a bunch of it. You wear a lot of hats.

Aunt Betsy (00:42):

I do wear a lot of hats. I’m an intuitive life coach, which means I use my abilities as a psychic medium and a tarot card reader to help people overcome the blocks in life. Give them direction as to where they’re going, give them the information they need to make decisions about their next phase of life.

KC Armstrong (01:01):

I see. And who’s a great candidate for you to work with you?

Aunt Betsy (01:08):

Gosh, just about anybody, but I have a lot of small business owners or a lot of people who are contemplating starting a small business. Small, small, what all is encompassing and starting a business. They want to get some deeper insight in choosing their niches, business paths, really facing what they have internally about becoming a business owner.

KC Armstrong (01:33):

I see. So what I’m getting is basically if anyone who has a decision to make or wants to see different options, they should kind of go to you and see what’s out there first. Is that?

Aunt Betsy (01:47):

Absolutely, yes. I’ve had a lot of people during the pandemic because lives are changing drastically coming to me about what is next in their lives, what information do they need, what challenges do they need to overcome?

KC Armstrong (02:02):

What about relationships? Do you help with that?

Aunt Betsy (02:05):

I do, absolutely. I get a lot of people coming with relationship issues.

KC Armstrong (02:09):

Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess we all have them, but what would you say the most popular, the most common topic people come to you with? Is it life change, is it relationships? Is it kids? I don’t know.

Aunt Betsy (02:26):

Mostly career has been career. Career has been the biggest for me because in the pandemic, so many people were laid off. So many people were working to find different avenues to make money. A lot of people starting side businesses because they want to have that security. So if something like this ever happens again and they get laid off,

KC Armstrong (02:49):

Right, yeah, that would be smart.

Aunt Betsy (02:51):

And now we’re going into a recession, so people are looking for ways to subsidize themselves and make sure they have that security of income.

KC Armstrong (03:01):

I got you. So as far as your life coaching, how do you intertwine your gifts as a psychic and someone who has more intuition than we do into your life coaching? What’s your special sauce basically?

Aunt Betsy (03:24):

Basically I take all of the information from the universe and I relay it to the client and then we just talk about it. What is true for you in the information that I’m giving you and what can you do to overcome those types of situations? A lot of times people are finding that there are parts of themselves, parts of their personality that they need to really face and overcome, whether it’s shyness or their ability to relate to people, things like that.

KC Armstrong (04:01):

Could it be like a bad relationship track or an addiction or some inner something that people don’t face that’s in the subconscious or something like that?

Aunt Betsy (04:12):

Absolutely, absolutely. I do with my abilities is help them tap into their subconscious to find out what they don’t know that they don’t know.

KC Armstrong (04:21):

Wow. Yes. So what would be really cool is if, because I’m sure people are out there, yeah, this is really interesting, but I want to know what happens. So say I was a person that wanted to ask you to do a reading. What do I do first? What’s the first step? Do I go to the website? How

Aunt Betsy (04:41):

Does it work? You go to the website and you can sign up either for email reading or a in-person. And by in-person I mean video or physically

KC Armstrong (04:52):

In person like this? Yes. Okay, okay. And that’s ask aunt, that’s where people go,

Aunt Betsy (04:59):


KC Armstrong (05:00):

Yes. Okay. So we set up a time and do we speak beforehand? How does that work?

Aunt Betsy (05:07):

If it’s an email reading, we’d go back and forth by email. If it’s an in-person reading, I don’t usually talk to my clients beforehand. We start with formulating what their question’s going to be because having a more focused intentional question will help them get the best information so that they can make their decisions, make their choices in life.

KC Armstrong (05:30):

I see. So if I’m going to do a, or I’m going to ask you to help me with reading. I got something going on in my life that I want to ask you. I mean, are there people around me or the spirits around me? Do you see, I mean, just looking at me right now, we just met, is there anything you’ve seen around me? I just need to know how it works because of course no one has the gift that not many people have.

Aunt Betsy (05:56):

Yeah, there is a lot of energy around you that good or bad, it’s almost always good. Very rarely is it bad. There’s a lot of energy, some of it’s spirit, some of it is influences around you from the people that are physically in the room with you, people that you encounter every day, you carry their energy. So there is a lot of energy surrounding you. Then once we formulate your questions, then I can tap into what that energy is.

KC Armstrong (06:28):

Okay. So I guess if I was going to ask a question, I would say I’m a single guy. Yeah. I guess I would ask, if you wouldn’t mind, maybe you could show us how this is done. I’ll ask you, how long am I going to be single for? Am I going to be single forever or meet somebody? What do you see?

Aunt Betsy (06:54):

Well, let’s talk about your question a little bit. Okay. Timeframes are a little challenging in the spirit world and timeframes also have a lot to do with you and how aggressive you want to be with the information that you’re going to get. So I would formulate the question more like what do you need to know about yourself so that you can find a partner?

KC Armstrong (07:22):

Okay, that’s a great question.

Aunt Betsy (07:23):

Yeah, it really has to start from within ourselves.

KC Armstrong (07:27):


Aunt Betsy (07:27):

So do you want me to go ahead and do the reading

KC Armstrong (07:29):

For you? I would love that. It’d be great.

Aunt Betsy (07:30):

Okay. I’m going to start with shuffling my tarot cards. I use a great little tarot deck that I love. It’s got a crazy name. It’s called The Bastard Deck, and it’s by a company called Seven by Tarot. What the designer of this deck did was take all of the images that she liked from every other deck and made her own deck with them.

KC Armstrong (07:55):

Okay. Okay, cool.

Aunt Betsy (07:59):

So I’ve been shuffling the cards and putting your intention into them of wanting to know what you need to know about finding a partner. And now I’m going to pull three cards. So the first card is your past. So what has been going on in your life in the immediate past, and it is the nine of wands. And you can see this guy is a little beat up. Can you see it?

KC Armstrong (08:28):

Yeah. Okay.

Aunt Betsy (08:29):

He’s a little battered and bruised. So that that’s telling me that you’ve kind of been been through quite a bit.

KC Armstrong (08:38):

Some might say that.

Aunt Betsy (08:40):

Yeah, I’m single as well and I’ve been through it as well, so I can relate. But you have the stamina to keep moving forward. You have the desire to keep finding love for your life. So that’s a really good thing that even though you’ve been through all of these relationships and breakups, good, bad, and ugly. Right on. You still have that stamina to go forward.

KC Armstrong (09:05):

Okay. Yeah, that’s perfect. That’s true.

Aunt Betsy (09:07):

Yeah. And with all of these relationships, you have been learning things about yourself and I also deal in numerology. So nine is very significant in that numerology goes one to 10 and you are at nine, which means you are so close to ending this cycle, so close to ending the cycle.

KC Armstrong (09:31):


Aunt Betsy (09:32):

Yeah. That’s a good

KC Armstrong (09:34):

Plate. Yeah. Well, I don’t know if people usually interject when you do this, but I often see the same numbers all the time.

Aunt Betsy (09:42):


KC Armstrong (09:43):

1, 1, 1, 1. And then lately it’s been two, two, but I’m at a nine. So there’s a cycle and I’m very close to getting past the cycle.

Aunt Betsy (09:57):

You’re very close to ending this cycle.

KC Armstrong (10:00):

How do I do it?

Aunt Betsy (10:02):

We’re going to get to that.

KC Armstrong (10:03):

Okay. Sorry, I’m going to be quiet. Sorry. I’m excited. I’m having fun.

Aunt Betsy (10:07):

Okay, so there are two types of cards in the tarot. One is the minor acana, which the nine of wands that you just got is a minor. So that’s all the day-to-day stuff of life. That is how you’ve been living down deep, dirty in your life. So now your present card is the middle one and it’s a Majorana card. So this is major arcana cards are life lessons, kind of what you were put on this earth to do. And you’ve got the fool. And the fool is the first card of the major arcana. The major arcana tells your life story. So you are at the beginning of a whole new life. This is a brand new journey and just like a fool, you need to walk into your future just blind and take whatever comes. Just be open to it all because in your near future you get the two of coins. So the two is partnership. So you are definitely going to be finding a partnership soon. I would love this card to have been cups because cups are in motion, but you’ve got coins, which is money. So this tells me that you’re going to find your next partner somewhere in your career world.

KC Armstrong (11:39):

Okay. They like me for money. Is that what it’s, no, I’m kidding with you, I’m just kidding.

Aunt Betsy (11:48):

Oh, I would like you if you could keep me in the style. I want to become accustom

KC Armstrong (11:52):

System. Yeah, okay, I got you. I got you and Kate, come on. I’m trying not to say anything.

Aunt Betsy (11:59):

Yeah, no, this card is telling me it’s not so much that they want you for your money, but it’s somebody that is in your sphere with your career or your job, somebody in that area. And you just really need to take the chance and go for it when you meet that person.

KC Armstrong (12:15):

Okay. And then keep things open.

Aunt Betsy (12:17):

Keep things open. Yeah, just be open. You’ve got a great personality, just let it out there.

KC Armstrong (12:24):

Oh, thank you. That’s very kind of you. Thank you. Okay, so you pulled two cards or you pull

Aunt Betsy (12:34):

I pulled three cards.

KC Armstrong (12:35):

You pulled three cards.

Aunt Betsy (12:37):

I pulled three cards

KC Armstrong (12:38):

Again. What was the first one meant? The first one,

Aunt Betsy (12:40):

The first one was the nine of ones where this is your past

KC Armstrong (12:44):

That’s be beaten up, right? You’ve all been

Aunt Betsy (12:46):

Beaten up.

KC Armstrong (12:48):

The cycle going to end

Aunt Betsy (12:49):

And the cycle’s about to end with that. Your present is the fool, which is just the beginning of everything, the beginning of a whole new life cycle for you. And you just need to be open to it all, whatever comes your way.

KC Armstrong (13:05):

Awesome. Hey, that was really cool. Thank you. So if someone was watching it and see how excited I was and how much fun that was, and it’s really neat. How do people get involved and do that Again?

Aunt Betsy (13:19):

They just sign up for a session on my website, which is and ask aunt They go on there onto the sales page. I do email readings where we correspond by email and with the email readings they also get a written summary of the reading as well as a video of the cards that I pull and an oral explanation. As I talk about the cards, I use what’s called a Celtic cross reading for those, which is a 10 card reading. So it goes much more in depth than the three card reading that we just did. It’s a much more in depth, really gives much more information about where you’re at, what you’re grappling with, and then how to move forward from there. And then the video reading works a lot like you and I do. We talk about the question, then I do the tilted cross reading and explain all of that. And then if there’s follow-up questions, then I do some three card readings to get some more information.

KC Armstrong (14:17):

Alright, well first of all, thank you for doing that for me. I really welcome. Appreciate it taking the time to do that. I really do appreciate it. Let me go to the audience. Do I have instant feedback that came in here, Mr. Producer? Let’s see what they’re saying.

Speaker 4 (14:36):

Yeah, Sarah in New York says, that sounds like a lot of fun. How do I know which questions I should ask when I get into a reading?

Aunt Betsy (14:44):

It’s really what they need to know about their life. Are they grappling with something in a relationship, something with business? Should they change jobs? Should they not? What do they need to know about themselves to interact with coworkers? It’s really about what they want to know. Whatever issue in their life they’re grappling with.

KC Armstrong (15:05):

Okay. All right, great. And once again, I’m sorry it’s monotonous, but just in case people just tune it in, how do they get there? Again, website.

Aunt Betsy (15:14):

Ask aunt And also people are having challenges with their question. I do have a guide on my website. It’s nine Tips to a Life-changing tarot reading. So that gives them some ideas of how to formulate their question and also some sample questions.

KC Armstrong (15:31):

That’s awesome. So if if something is missing and they really don’t know what to do, they go on there and then they could, they got the guidance.

Aunt Betsy (15:39):

Awesome. Yes, they can download my guide, read through that, see about how to ask the question, and then book a session with me. And if they do download that guide, they get $25 off an email reading.

KC Armstrong (15:52):

Nice. So

Aunt Betsy (15:53):

That’s a great way for them to start.

KC Armstrong (15:55):

Okay. Well I’m loving Ann Bey. So let’s go back to the instant feedback here and see what people are saying.

Speaker 4 (16:04):

Kathy in Boston wants to know, does putting a timeline on some of these things create unfair expectations?

KC Armstrong (16:10):

Ooh, go on.

Aunt Betsy (16:11):

Oh, absolutely. Because the universe doesn’t have time relations. That’s a manmade thing.

Aunt Betsy (16:22):

So the time in saying something’s going to happen in three to six months, that’s all in how you react to the information and what steps you take. If you’re slower at taking steps, then it might be longer. If you’re really fast, it might be in two weeks. So timing is all within yourself and how you move forward on your path. And it also has to do with choices that you make. If I do a reading for you and you don’t like the information that I’m giving you, you don’t like the path that you’re on and you decide to make different choices, then that timeline is completely different and may not happen at all.

KC Armstrong (17:01):

I see. Interesting. And let me piggyback on top of that question from Kathy. Kathy, thank you Kathy. I heard, I don’t know if, what do you think about crystal’s and do you ever work with crystals? Cause I’m wondering, I always told that a quartz crystal amplifies things. Yes. So if I do a reading or someone wants to do a reading, should they have anything in the room? Should they dress differently? Should they have tea? What goes along with it?

Aunt Betsy (17:37):

They should do whatever they’re comfortable with and they need to be in a relaxed state and open to receive the information. A lot of my clients will take a few minutes and meditate or pray or whatever they need to do before we have the reading. That way they’re open for whatever the information the universe has for them. I’m not a big crystal user. I do have some, but they do every crystal. I know every crystal stone does have intentions. And just a little tip for the married women out there, diamonds are an amplification stone. So if you’re having a fight with your husband, take your ring off.

KC Armstrong (18:21):

Okay, awesome.

Aunt Betsy (18:24):

Yeah. I do also use a pendulum, which is basically, let me show you. One is basically just a chain with something at the end. This is a little cage with a stone in it, and I use it to confirm some of the information.

KC Armstrong (18:44):

What do you mean? Like confirm? What does it show you? Is it something that we wouldn’t understand?

Aunt Betsy (18:50):

It does, yes and no. You ask it questions and it gives you yes and no. So the way it’s swinging now is a yes question. Now I’m asking it to give me a no answer or no response. So let’s ask, will Casey be meeting somebody soon that he can have a romantic relationship with?

KC Armstrong (19:11):

And it’s

Aunt Betsy (19:11):

Saying yes.

KC Armstrong (19:13):

Cool. Alright. We like the pendulum.

Aunt Betsy (19:16):

Cool. Yes, we do. So that just is another way to get confirmation of the information.

KC Armstrong (19:25):

Awesome. When did you first know that you had this gift that you weren’t kind of the same as everybody else?

Aunt Betsy (19:31):

I was very young. I think I was about four and I was at my great uncle’s funeral and I realized that he was standing next to the casket as well as laying in the casket. And my grandmother explained to me what was going on.

KC Armstrong (19:48):

Was he looking at you? Was he saying anything or was he just standing there?

Aunt Betsy (19:51):

He was just standing there. It was an Irish wake. Everybody was walking up to the casket to do shots with the body.

KC Armstrong (19:58):

No. Is that true?

Aunt Betsy (19:59):

Yeah. That’s what happens at an Irish wake. Everybody goes to say their goodbyes to the body and they do a shot. So they were all doing that and he was just standing there just listening to what everybody had to say.

KC Armstrong (20:12):

Wow. And how did you feel? Did it scare you or did it make you feel good?

Aunt Betsy (20:17):

No, it was just a little confused. And then when my grandmother explained it to me

KC Armstrong (20:22):

So she knew at all. Anybody in your family had that too? They did, yes.

Aunt Betsy (20:27):


KC Armstrong (20:28):

Wow, how interesting. Yeah. Cool. Okay, let’s go back to the fans. They got a lot of questions for you. So let’s go back to instant feedback Producer. What? You got me buddy?

Speaker 4 (20:39):

We have Scott Phoenix wants to know when I come in for a reading, should I ask specific details or keep my questions

Aunt Betsy (20:51):

Asking open-ended question is very important, but if they have details about a specific person, like they’re having issues with a coworker at work, it’s like, what do I need to know about this situation with Casey?

KC Armstrong (21:04):

Right, right. Yeah, yeah,

Aunt Betsy (21:06):

Yeah. What do I need to know about my relationship with my wife, Ann? If there is somebody that is involved in that and what you need to know about your interactions with them, then it’s good information for me. Okay.

KC Armstrong (21:22):

I was going to tell Scott, don’t do what I did and because this is what I do for a living, I talk. So don’t interrupt the person who’s doing the reading for you. And I’m very sorry about that, if that happens.

Aunt Betsy (21:36):

No, no, that’s okay. People do that all the time. They ask questions and they want to get to the end before I’m ready to give them the ending.

KC Armstrong (21:45):

I apologize for that, but you won’t be on the radio when you’re doing your reading, Scott, so you got time. You could relax and go from there. But thank you Scott. Great question. Can we do one more? We can. Okay, cool. We got one more.

Aunt Betsy (22:03):


Speaker 4 (22:04):

Ryan in Portland wants to know, I’m not happy at my current job, but I’m scared to enter the job world. Is my mindset the only thing holding me back?

Aunt Betsy (22:13):

Most likely? Most likely. And we can do a reading based on your mindset and what obstacles you need to overcome with your mindset. I deal a lot with people who are experiencing fear and what it is that they need to face to move past that fear.

KC Armstrong (22:32):

Yeah. You were telling me before that a lot of it has to do with career. People will try and will you stick with ’em with the life coaching? Will you take ’em on as a client? Do you have room?

Aunt Betsy (22:44):

Absolutely, yes. Absolutely. Yes. I do have my clients who I see on a monthly basis and we talk about the information the universe is giving them what their next steps are. Then at the next one then we talk about what have they done, where are they going, what choices are they making in their life around the information that I gave them the last time.

KC Armstrong (23:05):

Awesome. Guys, I’m speaking with the owner of Ask Aunt Betsy and Betsy and can I fit one more in? Yeah. Alright, cool. Let’s get one more in. Let’s do it.

Speaker 4 (23:18):

So we have Stacy in Los Angeles wants to know, do you believe in chance events or is everything a part of the path we’re currently on?

Aunt Betsy (23:28):

Good question. I believe in free will and we are on the path in life, but we make decisions every day that change that path. So there can be Chance encounters along the way because we’ve made a different choice than the path that we were on and it altered it a little bit. So it’s putting us into new circumstances.

KC Armstrong (23:51):

I see. But it’s very important, as you said, to stay open, right?

Aunt Betsy (23:55):


KC Armstrong (23:56):

Okay. Yes. And Betsy, I have enjoyed this time. Again, I want to thank you for the reading and for spending time with me. You’re welcome. Welcome. But I want to give you the last minute here. Just when I was a kid, my grandmother, when she wanted to hear from me, she would say, Casey, you have the floor, so anything you want the audience to know to leave with, you have the floor as my grandmother would say. So please,

Aunt Betsy (24:27):

What I do is to help my clients really focus on what is next in their lives. And it can be anything from relationships to their self-confidence to their finances, career, just a new perspective in life in general. I have people who have come to me and they’re like, I’m just in this funk. What do I need to do to get past the funk? And that’s been a real common one through the pandemic. As I said, I use my abilities as a psychic, a medium, and a tarot reader. Quite a few times during my readings, a relative or a friend of the person I’m reading for will come through and we’ll have information for them.

KC Armstrong (25:21):

I lost you just for a second, and Betsy, we’re at the end anyway. Oh, there you go. Okay. I’m sorry.

Aunt Betsy (25:32):

Oh, I’m so sorry. I don’t know what happened there.

KC Armstrong (25:35):

It’s okay.

Aunt Betsy (25:36):

Yeah. I really help people tap into their self-conscious so that they can learn what they don’t know so that they can change cycles in life and change habits.

KC Armstrong (25:46):

Perfect. And then the website guys, it’s ask aunt I’ve enjoyed this. Thank you so much. You have to say next everybody, we’ll be right back.

Aunt Betsy (25:57):


Speaker 1 (26:04):

Broadcasting from the business capital of the world, this is the podcast Business News Network.


Speaker 1 (00:05):

Broadcasting from the business capital of the world. This is the podcast business news Network.

Steve Harper (00:13):

I’m going to start that over again because she’s here. Our aunt is here and she’s not my aunt. She’s our aunt because she is who’s incredibly intuitive. She’s an intuitive life coach. She has psychic abilities, mediumship ability. She can do tarot card readings. She can really help plot your life path and it’s great to have you with us. How are you Aunt Betsy?

Aunt Betsy (00:36):

I’m doing great. So good to be here.

Steve Harper (00:39):

Great to have you with us. And I’ve talked to life coaches before, but you’re very different having the intuitive side. So can we dig into that right now? How does that work for you? Is it when you meet with somebody and you going to work with them as a life coach, do you have kind of a feeling for what they’re after just because you’ve kind of tapped into their energy?

Aunt Betsy (01:04):

Yes, I do. I do. I usually see their auras and their energy as we’re doing the pleasantries and I get a feel for who they are and what they’re looking for in life, and then we move forward from there. It’s being an intuitive life coach gives me that advantage that we can start at a deeper level than most coaches or even most therapists.

Steve Harper (01:30):

Yep. I totally understand it because if you, nothing wrong with therapists, but sometimes it takes time to get to a certain point. You might have to go for three sessions before you’re really at the point where you’re at the therapy or the coaching level.

Aunt Betsy (01:44):

Right, exactly. So with me, we can start at a little bit deeper level and get to the heart of what you want to know.

Steve Harper (01:53):

So I want to know, and I’m sure a lot of people ask this question, if you are a medium or a psychic, does that mean that you can connect with the other side as well?

Aunt Betsy (02:04):

It does, and a lot of times during readings, the person I’m reading for their relatives, friends who have passed will come through in the reading and we’ll help with messages for them.

Steve Harper (02:17):

Wow, fantastic. I firmly believe, and I’m learning this more and more in my journey, that our future, our present is kind of dictated by our past, our childhood, whatever it might be, and you have to pull that out before you can move forward in your journey. And I would imagine as a intuitive life coach, you’re going to pull that out pretty fast.

Aunt Betsy (02:40):

Yes, I do. So we don’t, like most therapists, they have to go through all the stages of the childhood with me. I get a sense of what that childhood was and we can just move forward.

Steve Harper (02:52):

Wow. Before we move forward in our talk here, I got to find out, how did this all begin for you? When did you realize that you had some intuition and wanted to be a life coach?

Aunt Betsy (03:05):

I was at a funeral when I was about four years old, and I saw the body in the casket and standing next to the casket and I was a little confused and my grandmother explained it to me.

Steve Harper (03:19):

Wow. I can imagine. The good thing is, the good thing is you were four because if you were 40 and that happened, I don’t know if anybody could have handled that at that moment.

Aunt Betsy (03:33):

No, no. So it just kind of all made sense to me at that moment of what I was, so it’s just an ability I’ve always had.

Steve Harper (03:42):

Amazing. Tell me some of the things that you’ve pulled from somebody in doing your life coaching, like an interesting situation or even a success story. Anything stand out in your mind? Recently?

Aunt Betsy (03:58):

Most of my clients in the last few years have been people wanting to start businesses because they got through the pandemic, either got laid off from jobs, got their jobs cut part time, wanted to start a side hustle in case they did get laid off or their company went out of business. So I’ve had a lot of successes helping people define what their business is because they come to me and say, I want to, I’ve got this product and I want to sell this product, and what do I need to do? And we work through what that product really is and what it means to them and why they want to sell it. And we get to a different place where it’s not so much about the product itself, but about what they’re building as a business.

Steve Harper (04:51):

And I’m sure a lot of them comes out in terms of their relationships, how that steers the business, their emotions and everything.

Aunt Betsy (05:00):

And we deal a lot with their fears of starting a business. A lot of people are very comfortable showing up to work and being handed a paycheck, and then when they have their own business, it’s a whole different way of life and we really work on that way of life as well.

Steve Harper (05:22):

Yes, it is. And I own a business and I was just doing invoices before because I’m in between bookkeepers. I got it. If you’re not familiar with it in terms of starting your own business, it’s a great thing. It’s a great thing. There’s other things involved there that you might not be aware of, so you might want to talk to and Betsy over here and just be armed. Be armed with what you need to know.

Aunt Betsy (05:48):

Yes. And I do have some clients who are really, they want to start a business, but they’re afraid of the sales aspect of it and talking to people to actually sell their product. So we do a lot of work on why they have that fear and where that fear came from.

Steve Harper (06:03):

I want to talk about intuition for a second because a lot of psychics or people with some type of ability like that say that we’re all psychic. We all can do it, we just need to be able to tune into it. Do you feel that way?

Aunt Betsy (06:19):

I absolutely do. For quite a while of my life, I did block it out. I just ignored it. I just kind of shut it down and it did take me a while to get it back. I also have, one of my best friends was very intuitive as a child and she shut it down and I’ve been working with her to open up her psychic abilities as well, and it’s really coming along very nicely. She’s become very intuitive.

Steve Harper (06:49):

Wow. So is it something, a skill that you work on as well?

Aunt Betsy (06:54):

Absolutely. Absolutely. A lot of meditation is involved to really tap into those long forgotten parts of our brain, the subconscious, and that’s really where the intuition comes from is back in the subconscious.

Steve Harper (07:14):

So it’s almost a, maybe you need to get into a meditative type state to really tap into that.

Aunt Betsy (07:20):

Yes, yes. When I was first trying to get my abilities back, I would spend a lot of time meditating and really just letting my mind wander back into the deepest corners and reaches inside my brain to really pull that information out.

Steve Harper (07:39):

I think I speak for a lot of people when it comes to meditation. I’m going to be blunt. I suck. It’s, it’s hard to get there. I could even tell you three years ago where I was, where I felt like, oh, and I was using an app. I was like, ah, I’m there. It’s so hard to get into that zone. What’s secret? What’s the secret?

Aunt Betsy (08:07):

I don’t know that there’s any one secret for anyone. When I meditate, I actually set a timer that I’m going to meditate for 30 minutes, and then that gives me the ability to set all of those daily worries aside and I can just sit and meditate and really let the information come to my conscious mind.

Steve Harper (08:30):

Somebody told me this, and I don’t know if you or somebody else does this, but they visualize themselves in an elevator and they went to the bottom floor, elevator opens, and they walk in onto a beach and that’s their meditative, that’s their location. They press the button, they know that’s how they mentally got there and they’re on the beach and that’s how they see things and feel things. And then when they’re done, they get back in the elevator and go back up.

Aunt Betsy (08:55):

Yeah, that’s a great idea. I have not done that, but I’m going to have to try that the next time I sit down to meditate.

Steve Harper (09:02):

I really actually want to be on the beach, but I don’t know how many elevators lead out to the sand.

Aunt Betsy (09:08):

My house is right on the little manmade lake, so I go outside and just look at the lake and let my mind wander and get into that meditative state.

Steve Harper (09:18):

Love it. So you also do tarot card readings, right?

Aunt Betsy (09:22):

Yes, I do.

Steve Harper (09:25):

Some people tell me that they do tarot card readings, they do Oracle cards. You do both or just tarot?

Aunt Betsy (09:32):

I’m just a tarot reader. Our oracles are a little different and I have not taken the time to learn those because tarot is definitely a learned skill.

Steve Harper (09:41):

And you know what? That is the baseline. That’s everything. Tarot. The Oracle cards, from what I understand are a more positive version of tarot cards. So tarot cards really tell it like it is and it runs a lot deeper. So to have that skill, you’re good to go.

Aunt Betsy (10:00):

Yeah. I like tarot for that Reason is it does go deeper. It does get into the story of your life and not the story we tell ourselves, but the story that we’re meant to live in this life.

Steve Harper (10:13):

When you do a tarot chord reading a typical one, how many cards do you pull?

Aunt Betsy (10:19):

When I do readings for my clients, I pull 10 cards and I do what’s called a Celtic cross reading, and that goes back to my Celtic roots. I identify most with the Irish part of me.

Steve Harper (10:30):

Same here.

Aunt Betsy (10:34):

So I do this Celtic Cross and it goes through where you’re sitting right now in your life and what the challenges are and then what you want as well as what the universe wants for you.

Steve Harper (10:49):

I love the way you put that, Betsy, because I am learning more and more about the universe and how, and it is what it is and how you need to put things out into the universe that you want. You’re probably not going to get ’em unless you do. And don’t be afraid to ask for those things might not get them.

Aunt Betsy (11:09):

Absolutely. Absolutely. It goes back to the Old Testament in the Bible. Seek and you shall find. Yeah.

Steve Harper (11:16):

Yeah. And it’s a phrase that has come to my mind in the last year or two. It will all be revealed. It will all be revealed, whatever it is. Take time, whatever. Yes. Yeah, give everybody your website. If they want to reach out to you, connect with you, do a reading,

Aunt Betsy (11:31):

It’s ask aunt

Steve Harper (11:35):

And bravo to you for locking down that domain name, by the way.

Aunt Betsy (11:39):

Yes. I have been known most of my life as Aunt Betsy, so when I wanted to start this business, it just made sense.

Steve Harper (11:49):

So along with tarot card readings and being an intuitive life coach, any other services that you offer people?

Aunt Betsy (11:58):

Not at this time. The intuitive life coaching is where I am focusing my energy.

Steve Harper (12:05):

Got it. Yeah. I didn’t know if maybe you did reiki. Sometimes people with your skills may do something else as well.

Aunt Betsy (12:12):

No, I have several friends who are reiki masters and I would rather refer people to them because they are amazing at it than have quite the talent for it.

Steve Harper (12:21):

Gotcha. So I never ask, but I’m kind of curious. Any possibility that you may be able to throw or pull a couple of cards on me,

Aunt Betsy (12:29):

I can will do a three card reading for you

Steve Harper (12:33):


Aunt Betsy (12:33):

That will lead us into the most important part of having a session with me is the question you want answered. And I have a guide on my website that is nine tips to Ensure Life changing tarot reading,

Steve Harper (12:49):

And I’m looking at now, by the way,

Aunt Betsy (12:54):

And that is if you go to my website, ask aunt There’s a big link that we’ll send you to that guide.

Steve Harper (13:04):

And it’s super easy to read, by the way. Very well laid out. It’s not super technical. Thank you. Yeah,

Aunt Betsy (13:11):

No, I wanted it super easy. Let’s just give you the information that you need so that we can move forward and get you on a path to a life that you love

Steve Harper (13:22):

And I love that. So tell me what you’re doing. Do you shuffle the cards first? How’s that go?

Aunt Betsy (13:25):

I do. First we need to talk about your question. What do you want to know about career, love, finances, family issues?

Steve Harper (13:38):

Fact, Betsy, I feel like I just rubbed the bottle and the genie came out three and I have to make them count and can I make them, do they have to be connected to each other or can they be completely independent questions?

Aunt Betsy (13:52):

They are a past, present, and future for the three cards. So we ask them a specific question and we see what that question has been doing for you in the recent past where it sits with you right now, and where the universe has you headed if you stay on this path.

Steve Harper (14:15):

I feel challenged for the first time in a long time.

Aunt Betsy (14:19):

I’m glad I was able to challenge

Steve Harper (14:20):

You. Yeah. So when we talk about the past question, give me an example of what that would be.

Aunt Betsy (14:28):

Well, it’s just one question that you ask, and I pulled the three cards around the one question. The most typical question is what do I need to know about my romantic life? What do I need to know about my business? What do I need to know about a family situation?

Steve Harper (14:50):

I only have three. I got to make them count. So they are going to center around the same thing. Is that that’s what we’re talking about?

Aunt Betsy (14:57):

Well, it’s just really one question. We’re asking one question and then there’s three cards that answer that one question.

Steve Harper (15:05):

Okay. So I’m living in the present. This is a present situation that I could ask lots of questions. I have lots of ’em. This one, and tell me, and if this question isn’t good, we will come up with others.

Aunt Betsy (15:21):


Steve Harper (15:22):

Should I buy a house I’m considering? And as an interesting situation surrounding that, which we don’t need to get into. Should I?

Aunt Betsy (15:35):

How about instead of saying should because there are no shoulds, how about what do you need to know about the house you’re buying and the decision you need to make?

Steve Harper (15:47):

That’s perfect.

Aunt Betsy (15:48):

Okay. So I am shuffling up the cards now with your intention of what you need to know about this house and the decision to buy it.

Steve Harper (16:04):

This is so cool and it’s not an easy question for me to answer because of situations surrounding it.

Aunt Betsy (16:19):

Yes. So you got a card that I don’t get very often, so I just want to double check something. Okay.

Steve Harper (16:28):

Of course

Aunt Betsy (16:29):

I did. Okay. Yes. So there are two types of cards in the tarot. There are the minor arcana, which are all that day-to-day stuff that you deal with. And then there’s the major arcana and those are your life lessons, the things that you came to this earth to learn. So your first question or your first card is your immediate past. And we’ve got strength, which is a major arcana card, and the strength card is all about compassion and can you see the card? Yeah. It’s all about compassion.

Steve Harper (17:08):


Aunt Betsy (17:11):

And within this decision, this card is telling me that you are maybe a little too compassionate about the situation and the people who are selling the house and all the situations around them selling the house that you have a little too much vested interest in what’s going on with them instead of the transaction.

Steve Harper (17:34):

Fair enough.

Aunt Betsy (17:37):

So with strength, it’s really good to have strength, but you need to balance the compassion that you have. And I’m so sorry, my cat has decided she wants to sit on the cards.

Steve Harper (17:50):

I hope she doesn’t leave anything on my strength card just saying

Aunt Betsy (17:53):

No. No. So strength is a really good place to come from, but you got to balance the compassion because you are in, since you’re in the media world, you always want to know all of the details. So a lot of the details aren’t necessarily things that you need to know to make this decision. Okay?

Steve Harper (18:17):


Aunt Betsy (18:19):

So your second card where you’re sitting at right now is the hangman. And I love this card. It’s all about letting go

Steve Harper (18:32):

And that ends our broadcast. Kidding, tell me more. It’s not a bad thing, is it? The

Aunt Betsy (18:37):

Hangman is all about letting go and finding a new perspective. So around this house purchase, you need to look at it a little bit different way than you’re currently looking at it. I also used to be a professional photographer and I took a photography class in Paris one time and we were walking down this one alleyway photographing stuff, and isn’t this all really cool? And we got to the other end and the instructor said, okay, let’s turn around and walk the other way. And it was a whole different experience. So you need to think about that with this home purchase, look at it from the other side and find a different perspective of it that may make more sense than the perspective you have now.

Aunt Betsy (19:31):

Because then your third card, which is the future, is the Ace of Cups. I also do numerology. Ace is the number one and number one is the beginning. So you’re going to be at a beginning of a whole new journey very soon. And cups are emotions. And in your case, it’s very happy emotions. It feels like there’s definitely a new home in your future and it feels like it is this home, but you need to look at it from a little bit different perspective. Make the offers from a little bit different perspective than you are now. You can have this home and you’ll be very happy in it.

Steve Harper (20:15):

Interesting. I’m not going to give up any details. I don’t need to, but I’m going to say everything you’re saying is at this juncture, and I’ll know more in a few days from what I do know. I’m going to say you’re like 90% on Target and the other 10% I won’t know. I’ll let you know. Yeah.

Aunt Betsy (20:40):

And this is the reading for right now. Tomorrow or the next day, different things happen. The sellers could change what’s going on. A realtor could do something that they’re not supposed to, so things can change, but at this moment it looks like this home is a really good purchase for you and you’re going to be very happy there.

Steve Harper (21:03):

Interesting. And to your point, there’s a lot of emotion involved. Should look at it from a different perspective. You’re totally totally on Target and you wouldn’t normally say that for buying a house, but in what we’re talking about here, 90%, you’re right on target with it. You really, really are. So let me ask you, we said past, present, future, the present. Am I right? That was the Hangman card.

Aunt Betsy (21:39):

That is the Hangman card.

Steve Harper (21:42):

And just overall, that’s not a bad thing.

Aunt Betsy (21:46):

No, the Hangman is a really good card. I like that card. Wow. Some tarot readers, but I do. I think it’s a really good card.

Steve Harper (21:55):

So scale of one to 10, 10 being the cards that you pulled for me being very strong, positive overall, where would you put that?

Aunt Betsy (22:06):

I think they’re very strong cards because you have two major arcana cards, so you have two life lessons within this decision that you’re making. How to balance your strength and compassion and your need to know every detail and your ability to let go and let the universe guide you through this process.

Steve Harper (22:30):

Let me make that 95% accurate. I processed it again what you’re saying and yeah, what you’re saying is definitely resonating. That’s it. 5%. I’ll let you know in a couple of days. And I’m not just saying that because you’re with us today. I’m fully transparent, always honest. That is what you’re saying. Is it? That’s it.

Aunt Betsy (22:54):

Good. I’m so glad.

Steve Harper (22:56):

It’s pretty crazy that you can pull that out from just a deck of cards. Of course. With your experience, intuition and reading it. Yes. Has there ever been a time where you’ve pulled cards and there’s no connection to the situation?

Aunt Betsy (23:12):

There is. There has been times and because the person that I was reading for wasn’t really intent on the question they asked, they had a lot of other things on their mind, other things that were going on. So the cards came out based on what they truly needed to know. And I have a lot of people come into my coaching sessions with what they think they already know about the situation, and then I am able to tap into their subconscious into that information that they don’t know that they don’t know. And it comes out as a whole different reading than they expected, but it was all information that they needed to hear.

Steve Harper (24:00):

When you think about it not to minimize life coaches, they’re all fantastic and have different specialties. Yes. What you’re doing is just moves it so much further and faster into where you want to be and what you want to find out about yourself, your life, your future, and all of that. Wow.

Aunt Betsy (24:20):

Absolutely. I just start at a different level and we get to a different level than non-intuitive do.

Steve Harper (24:29):

Yeah. And it’s not like this is all crazy psychic readings. No. You’re just tapping into energy and information and a path. Tell me about the process where I can’t believe we have a couple of minutes here, how it works. When somebody reaches out to you, they go to your website and where do they go from there?

Aunt Betsy (24:49):

They go to my website and I have two ratings that I do now. We can do it by email. Some people don’t want to talk to me, they just want to, at three in the morning, they want to toss a question out to me and see what comes back. That way they can go back to sleep and not worry about it until I get them an answer. Or we can do a video conference or in person if you are close enough to me. And I’ve also done them over the telephone, but I prefer seeing the person gives me a little bit better sense of their energy and I can read their body language a little bit better to see how they’re receiving the information.

Steve Harper (25:28):

How long does a take reading take?

Aunt Betsy (25:32):

Typical reading is about an hour and I start with the Celtic cross reading and we go through all of that. And then if they have follow up questions to get a little bit deeper, get a little bit more information, get some more clarity, then I do some three card readings to get them that additional information.

Steve Harper (25:51):

So you would do a series of three card readings that could be part of it?

Aunt Betsy (25:56):

That could be part of it, yes. Okay. I want to make sure that when we’re done, they have all the information that they desire to move forward in their life.

Steve Harper (26:08):

This is fantastic. It really is. And when somebody, even if you looked at astrology, sometimes it’s hard to interpret. Somebody will explain it to you, but I don’t know anything about the seventh son. Saturn returned as much as North Node, as much as I really want to just read me my chart, tell me what it says, specifically what it says, what the future’s going to be like, and be clear. You’re very clear in terms of what you do.

Aunt Betsy (26:38):

I do. I like to give my clients those straightforward answers so that they can move forward because my sugar coating it or my not giving them all the information doesn’t do them a service. And I really want my clients to have a life they love.

Steve Harper (26:54):

Has there been a time and Pepsi when there’s been some information where you’re like, I don’t know if I should give that up, or I don’t know if they really want to know that, or you’re just Here it is. Here it is.

Aunt Betsy (27:07):

I have had times where I’ve been a little leery about giving some information and then I did. And the people were very happy that they got the information because deep down that’s what they were really looking for.

Steve Harper (27:22):

Yeah. Let’s say there was a situation where somebody’s other half wasn’t being faithful, so to speak, that came up in the cards. Would you say something?

Aunt Betsy (27:35):

I have said something. One of the most interesting readings that I did was for a friend of mine and his wife and they were both sitting there and as I was reading for her, a second husband kept coming up that she was going to have a second family, a second, everything. And I didn’t know how to approach that since he was sitting there. So I finally just told him, I’m like, this is what I’m seeing, that there’s an ending to your marriage and that she finds somebody else and has another happy marriage. And it turns out, after I shared that information with them, that that’s what they were really looking for because they were trying to decide if they should continue to work it out or if they should get divorced.

Steve Harper (28:26):

Wow. Drop the mic, if you will. Wow. Interesting. And when you were saying second, I didn’t know if you were referring to maybe that she was with somebody who is married, right. And that family? No. Yeah, it was a

Aunt Betsy (28:46):

Wow. No, the reading was that they were getting divorced and she was going to have a second husband

Steve Harper (28:51):

And Betsy. Wow. God bless you. Stuff like

Aunt Betsy (28:56):

That. So yeah, even though I didn’t want to give up that information because they were friends of mine, I decided that it wouldn’t serve them with me not, and it really helped them that it was time for them to get divorced and learn how to co-parent and move on with their lives.

Steve Harper (29:12):

Wow. Fascinating. And I truly mean it. Fascinating talking with you today. I am looking forward to the next time we get together and if you have any questions, if you need to move your life forward and with somebody who can really plug into you and your energy or even card things, you have questions and Betsy is available, ask aunt is her website. And again, I feel like you’re our ants. You’re there for us, your aunt.

Aunt Betsy (29:43):

I’m definitely everybody’s Aunt Etsy.

Steve Harper (29:46):

Yeah. It’s been great talking with you and look forward to getting together sometime soon.

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